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lord_shar · Nov 29, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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Originally Posted by Manic Smile

For any that care I just bought the Prophecies CE from that Euro site listed and they just processed my order. I'll update again when they bill my credit card and provide a shiping/tracking number.

I also took a similar plunge when I bought Prophecies CE after seeing that ANET wasn't going to reprint them any time soon. I went through an e-tailer advertising on Amazon.com. The asking price was double the original sale price, but fortunately everything worked out well... the box was still sealed with an unopened CE-key inside. I would have been happier to give ANET that cash, but it seems that they don't want it.

Hengis · Nov 29, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by lord_shar

I also took a similar plunge when I bought Prophecies CE after seeing that ANET wasn't going to reprint them any time soon. I went through an e-tailer advertising on Amazon.com. The asking price was double the original sale price, but fortunately everything worked out well... the box was still sealed with an unopened CE-key inside. I would have been happier to give ANET that cash, but it seems that they don't want it.

I too have placed an order with HMV. HMV is a well respected chain store selling CDs DVDs and PC Games, but I have ordered on a Credit Card rather than a Dedit Card so that I have some comeback if the order is not as described.

I really cannot imagine that they still have CE in stock over a year and a half after release, but I too am willing to take the chance to find out.

Saraphim · Nov 29, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Just as a FYI, guys.

HMV do not have it. Your order will change from "on order" to "on special order with our suppliers". I placed an order with them months ago, they don't have it in stock and are relying on trying to purchase it from their suppliers - who of course, don't have it either.

I left my order open with them for almost two months, and when I emailed their sales team they had to admit they were "trying to obtain it". But as they can only order from wholesalers/publishers there's no way they'll get hold of it.

Your best bet is to do one of two things:

Ebay (but only a sealed copy)

or...

Whenever you go to a town you haven't been to, check the games stores and see if they have any on their shelves. HMV will not bill you, but unless pushed they won't admit you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting it from them.

Sorry.

As for all this stuff about the Divine Aura.. everyone's different. I don't consider the art books to be crappy at all, and are worth the extra twenty quid to me. I do it for a living and I still never get tired of seeing other artist's work.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

If they honestly don't have it then they really need to take the page down or change it to Out Of Stock until they can verifiably get it. Otherwise it creates undue hardship for the consumer. But like lord_shar said, I'd rather give my money to Anet. They are the ones who deserve any profit, not another end user.

Loviatar · Nov 29, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

I don't recall them ever saying they wouldn't add character slots; what they did say was they'd never allow account merging(which they have stuck to).

CORRECT.

GAILE GRAY made several posts on the old *CHARACTER SLOTS* thread as well as the *CHATS* and every time she stated

*at this time we are UNABLE to add extra slots and we are working on a way to hopefully provide for something that is a very popular request*

that was a technical inability to provide slots at that time.

that was not a policy of we wont but a statement of we are not able at this time but are working to provide it.

GAILE on the other hand has flatly said that while we can produce more early CE policy and fairness to CE buyers not to devalue their extra cost purchase means we will not keep making more of a limited item.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

I don't recall them ever saying they wouldn't add character slots; what they did say was they'd never allow account merging(which they have stuck to).

I do recall this, they flat out said that adding character slots would be impossible from a technical standpoint however once people began saying that they'd be willing to pay for those extra slots, they took another look at it and found a way to make it possible provided the slots were purchased (to make up the cost on Anet's end).

So this has gone from a will-not to a here-ya-go. There's no reason this can't or won't either. Sure they may currently say no we won't print more CEs, but if the consumer demands it and is willing to pay, they'd have to listen.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

CORRECT.

GAILE GRAY made several posts on the old *CHARACTER SLOTS* thread as well as the *CHATS* and every time she stated

*at this time we are UNABLE to add extra slots and we are working on a way to hopefully provide for something that is a very popular request*

that was a technical inability to provide slots at that time.

that was not a policy of we wont but a statement of we are not able at this time but are working to provide it.

GAILE on the other hand has flatly said that while we can produce more early CE policy and fairness to CE buyers not to devalue their extra cost purchase means we will not keep making more of a limited item.

They said it was impossible, but later found a way to do so once the players said they'd be willing to pay for them. The players pressed and pressed their desire and won out in the end. That may not happen every time, but that can also happen now. The simple fact that end users are getting profit from something they themselves could be selling would be a major sticking point.

Loviatar · Nov 29, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by nbajammer

They said it was impossible, but later found a way to do so once the players said they'd be willing to pay for them. The players pressed and pressed their desire and won out in the end. That may not happen every time, but that can also happen now. The simple fact that end users are getting profit from something they themselves could be selling would be a major sticking point.

sorry to disagree but you are flat out provably wrong.

note the simple provable facts.

1 they already had the ability to add slots when you linked both chapters so obviously they could add slots and did not say it was impossible.

2. they did state that *at this time we do not have the ability to add slots to individual accounts above the increase from merging*.

they did state they were working on a solution but due to technicalities could not give a hard and fast date on when it would be available.

3 ANET has always agreed it was popular and never stated WE WONT only that WE CANT at this moment but are working to provide a way to do so.

Saraphim · Nov 29, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by nbajammer

If they honestly don't have it then they really need to take the page down or change it to Out Of Stock until they can verifiably get it. Otherwise it creates undue hardship for the consumer. But like lord_shar said, I'd rather give my money to Anet. They are the ones who deserve any profit, not another end user.

I agree. And I did point it out to them at the time. I could've used the money I had sat there for two months 'just in case' for something else. In the end I decided to bid on eBay... but the prices they get up to just aint worth it, in my opinion.

I also seriously doubt that DA will ever be sold in the store. Ir's fair enough (imo) that early users who took the plunge get something nice. If everyone has DA then being in a town would be something like a bizarro fireworks display 24/7. I don't think my graphics card would be able to take the strain.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

sorry to disagree but you are flat out provably wrong.

note the simple provable facts.

1 they already had the ability to add slots when you linked both chapters so obviously they could add slots and did not say it was impossible.

2. they did state that *at this time we do not have the ability to add slots to individual accounts above the increase from merging*.

they did state they were working on a solution but due to technicalities could not give a hard and fast date on when it would be available.

3 ANET has always agreed it was popular and never stated WE WONT only that WE CANT at this moment but are working to provide a way to do so.

sorry to disagree but you are flat out provably wrong.

note the simple provable facts.

1. They had the ability to add slots to a merged account, but they did not have the ability to simply add slots at will.

2. Therefore, they said no can do.

3. This only happened after the players demanded the ability to get extra slots.

I posted in that very thread on GWO. 50+ pages long. I was there. I know what was said. I know they took another look at the situation when the players demanded the ability to buy slots. I know they then relented on it when told we'd be willing to purchase them. Sorry, but the facts back me up here.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

I agree. And I did point it out to them at the time. I could've used the money I had sat there for two months 'just in case' for something else. In the end I decided to bid on eBay... but the prices they get up to just aint worth it, in my opinion.

I also seriously doubt that DA will ever be sold in the store. Ir's fair enough (imo) that early users who took the plunge get something nice. If everyone has DA then being in a town would be something like a bizarro fireworks display 24/7. I don't think my graphics card would be able to take the strain.

People do it now with the disco balls, and it doesn't get too bad. Doubt it'd be any worse with the DA.

At least the fireworks would be costly.

xxSilhouette · Nov 29, 2006, 05:19 PM // 17:19

As a lot of people have mentioned, You would probley have to buy from Amazon or Ebay - I have it, and my mom, got it as a birthday present from ebay last may - I think she payed somewhere around 120 dollars maybe? Not completely sure on that, but it was in fine condition and worked perfectly =)

Knightsaber Sith · Nov 29, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

The point being made about the whole comparison to character slots is that:

when it was constantly being requested; they said they couldn't at the time not that they wouldn't. After rewriting some of the game code; they were then able to offer them and were glad to.

With producing more CE's:

They have stated they could but they wont because it would be like stabbing everyone that already bought them in the back.
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In summation; you're statement that Gaile's statement that they wont re-release CE's lacks credability cause they had previously said they wouldn't do something and did it anyway is false because they said they couldn't (at the time) not that they wouldn't at any future date if it did become possible. As it stands, we have no reason to doubt that Gaile's statement will hold true.

(that last part may be a bit confusing but I can't really reword it any better...)

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by xxSilhouette

As a lot of people have mentioned, You would probley have to buy from Amazon or Ebay - I have it, and my mom, got it as a birthday present from ebay last may - I think she payed somewhere around 120 dollars maybe? Not completely sure on that, but it was in fine condition and worked perfectly =)

Was it sealed or opened? At $120, that's a heck of a deal. Most of them now go for $150+. I have my eyes on one right now, but being it's Christmas season, I sent the link to guildies and relatives for Xmas ideas.

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

The point being made about the whole comparison to character slots is that:

when it was constantly being requested; they said they couldn't at the time not that they wouldn't. After rewriting some of the game code; they were then able to offer them and were glad to.

With producing more CE's:

They have stated they could but they wont because it would be like stabbing everyone that already bought them in the back.
-------------------

In summation; you're statement that Gaile's statement that they wont re-release CE's lacks credability cause they had previously said they wouldn't do something and did it anyway is false because they said they couldn't (at the time) not that they wouldn't at any future date if it did become possible. As it stands, we have no reason to doubt that Gaile's statement will hold true.

(that last part may be a bit confusing but I can't really reword it any better...)

Like I said - I was there, I posted in it, I spent over an hour reading it. They said it couldn't be done, and then it was - as you stated - with a code re-write after people kept requesting it and said they'd pay for it no less. There's no reason the same can't be done here. Thus by virtue of the fact that I posted in that thread multiple times does gives the statement a LOT of credibility.

But making it available doesn't stab everyone in the back because the item is no more or less special if everyone had it. If the item is so special as you say- why do I not see people prancing around going emoting everything under the sun for the purpose of displaying it? Every time I see an emote spammer it is to be annoying (as the following stop spamming comments indicate), and there is no DA. None. The disco ball dance for Dervishes, the equivalent in Nightfall, is being beaten to death and then some but the fact that everyone has it does not make it less special. Either you have it or you don't.

Also, if you look back at the last Gaile chat, she stated that there "are no plans.." to make more. Just because there are no plans to doesnt mean they won't. Or that they will. But it does seem to show that they are aware of an interest on the part of the fanbase. If anything is to happen at all, that's the first step.

wolfmane · Nov 29, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

For those that want the CE... Play.com ftw!!!

nbajammer · Nov 29, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by wolfmane

For those that want the CE... Play.com ftw!!!

That's the standard edition, not the CE.

bog boy · Nov 29, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

i think i have seen one in the virgin megastores in peterborough not sure u know where this is but thought id say anyways

xxSilhouette · Nov 29, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by nbajammer

Was it sealed or opened? At $120, that's a heck of a deal. Most of them now go for $150+. I have my eyes on one right now, but being it's Christmas season, I sent the link to guildies and relatives for Xmas ideas.

It was sealed =) It came after my birthday, but she sent me the receipt and info in an email so i could see that it was coming, and like i said im pretty sure it was 120$, I havent looked at there prices now, but one of my buddies said they saw one going for 220

So im very glad my mom got it when she did.

My guess is as long as they don't release more, that its price will continue to go up. When i first looked into it a few months before i got mine, the price was at 90-100.

Solar Light · Nov 29, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

As to why the DA isnt seen as often, its becasue most of us with it, are either not spamming it, busy doing stuff ingame, and, the difference in player population and the fact that old players do tend leave or semi-retire

so, the players that display DA are less then what used to be.

I have the Aura myself, and i dont see others using it too often, and yes, i like the bit of attention and comments i get from it sometimes.

I like the uniqeness of it, compared to seeing someome spamming the Factions or NF emotes everywhere, i would swear that the NF CE had the largest amount made to date >.>

Personaly, im fine with keeping DA as it is, seeing every joe and whammo spamming it in town would be a spit in the face to me.

if you want comparisons, there is plenty of things in life we all cannot get, you dont see every player walking around with crystalline swords now do you? or stuff in RL like other collecables and items, ect

quite simply, everyone cannot have all they want, and i count myself lucky to have the Proph CE

Nov 29, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#60
Solar Light Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Teutonic Warriors {TW} Profession: Mo/	As to why the DA isnt seen as often, its becasue most of us with it, are either not spamming it, busy doing stuff ingame, and, the difference in player population and the fact that old players do tend leave or semi-retire so, the players that display DA are less then what used to be. I have the Aura myself, and i dont see others using it too often, and yes, i like the bit of attention and comments i get from it sometimes. I like the uniqeness of it, compared to seeing someome spamming the Factions or NF emotes everywhere, i would swear that the NF CE had the largest amount made to date >.> Personaly, im fine with keeping DA as it is, seeing every joe and whammo spamming it in town would be a spit in the face to me. if you want comparisons, there is plenty of things in life we all cannot get, you dont see every player walking around with crystalline swords now do you? or stuff in RL like other collecables and items, ect quite simply, everyone cannot have all they want, and i count myself lucky to have the Proph CE Last edited by Solar Light; Nov 29, 2006 at 08:48 PM // 20:48..

Nov 29, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24	#43
Saraphim Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Hand of Omega [WHO] Profession: E/	Just as a FYI, guys. HMV do not have it. Your order will change from "on order" to "on special order with our suppliers". I placed an order with them months ago, they don't have it in stock and are relying on trying to purchase it from their suppliers - who of course, don't have it either. I left my order open with them for almost two months, and when I emailed their sales team they had to admit they were "trying to obtain it". But as they can only order from wholesalers/publishers there's no way they'll get hold of it. Your best bet is to do one of two things: Ebay (but only a sealed copy) or... Whenever you go to a town you haven't been to, check the games stores and see if they have any on their shelves. HMV will not bill you, but unless pushed they won't admit you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting it from them. Sorry. As for all this stuff about the Divine Aura.. everyone's different. I don't consider the art books to be crappy at all, and are worth the extra twenty quid to me. I do it for a living and I still never get tired of seeing other artist's work.

Nov 29, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#44
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	If they honestly don't have it then they really need to take the page down or change it to Out Of Stock until they can verifiably get it. Otherwise it creates undue hardship for the consumer. But like lord_shar said, I'd rather give my money to Anet. They are the ones who deserve any profit, not another end user.

Nov 29, 2006, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#52
xxSilhouette Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lost in the sands of time... Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO] Profession: R/Rt	As a lot of people have mentioned, You would probley have to buy from Amazon or Ebay - I have it, and my mom, got it as a birthday present from ebay last may - I think she payed somewhere around 120 dollars maybe? Not completely sure on that, but it was in fine condition and worked perfectly =)

Nov 29, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46	#53
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	The point being made about the whole comparison to character slots is that: when it was constantly being requested; they said they couldn't at the time not that they wouldn't. After rewriting some of the game code; they were then able to offer them and were glad to. With producing more CE's: They have stated they could but they wont because it would be like stabbing everyone that already bought them in the back. ------------------- In summation; you're statement that Gaile's statement that they wont re-release CE's lacks credability cause they had previously said they wouldn't do something and did it anyway is false because they said they couldn't (at the time) not that they wouldn't at any future date if it did become possible. As it stands, we have no reason to doubt that Gaile's statement will hold true. (that last part may be a bit confusing but I can't really reword it any better...)

Nov 29, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17	#56
wolfmane Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Currently Looking... Profession: W/Rt	For those that want the CE... Play.com ftw!!!

Nov 29, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47	#58
bog boy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: pxks Profession: R/E	i think i have seen one in the virgin megastores in peterborough not sure u know where this is but thought id say anyways